great dane breeders color code

colors are harlequin, merle (both solid merle and mantle merle), mantle, black, fawn, brindle and blue. When it comes to Harlequin breeding Whites, Merles, Piebalds and Tweeds may all carry the deaf gene together with both skin and eye defects so it is advisable not to include these in any breeding programme. Most of the better blacks of that day sprung from the original Honey Hollow and Jocopa bloodlines. In the color issue she was proven right although I tend to believe it wasnt intentional, but that accident came to her as a revelation and she did the right thing afterwards she stood by it and didnt hesitate to combine fawn and black in fear that she might annoy the establishment. Stormi had been sold as a pet, and the breeder did not see him for another 2 years. and black breeding). Thank you for you patience. The Great Dane & the pseudo-danes (Part II) | Great Dane Gnosis, a conservation movement for the Great Dane | Great Dane Gnosis. (LogOut/ A Blue to be used in a Fawn breeding must not have any Harlequin or Mantle in the pedigree & vice versa. Carolyn Mobley of California did a commendable job with blacks from fawn breeding. These color families were developed to aide breeders in generating He was the best black Ive seen in the ring in recent years. I actually wrote on the spanish forum, that, maybe, as science has advanced, the way we bred today about colors, will be just anecdotic and some will feel horrified in some decades, as it will be certainly, if not animal abuse, an extremely uneficcient way of breeding, If everybody started to bred great danes like Lina Basquette, we can just wonder, how advanced and rich breeding on great danes would be today, a great ammount of the genetic variability has been lost because of this instead of that the segregationist theory sounded just perfect for the time. note on the photo above Ch. I would like to thank all who returned the questionaire to me with regards to the colour code of ethics, out of the 75 sent out only 20 were returned, some of those that were returned the recipients preferred not to comment on the colours and therefore only gave an opinion for Fawn and Brindle. And it had been years since a Great Dane not only won the group or even placed at Westminster. This was the start of the ridiculous controversy over mixed color breeding that suddenly blazed into open warfare and to this day is still a bone of contention amongst self-nominated purists. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Enter your email address to subscribe to this blog and receive notifications of new posts by email. The Color Code of Ethics became a political football and snowballed into a veritable glacier when a wonderful Great Dane became a top winner: CH Honey Hollow Stormi Rudio. (As endorsed by The Great Dane Club of America), It shall be the goal of all to breed forward, never backwards, to attain pedigrees of puppies which have the desired color strains endorsed by the Great Dane Club of America. Thus, the code of ethics became a political football; it would never have snowballed into a veritable glacier had Stormi not been such an enormous winning showdog. Black (from mantle, harlequin, black breeding not from blue breeding), Mantle, Merle Mantle Merle and Harlequin. Hardly traveling more than a hundred miles or two to shows, he won EIGHT BIS. Harlequin: Not only was Stormi Rudio a fantastic showman, but he moved magnificently and probably was as near-perfect as any Great Dane that ever lived (up to that time.). He was one of the best blacks I had seen in my whole life and when I came out of the ring, someone said, How could you put that dog up? Within the standard there are the color families. All Rights Reserved. Before the advent of Stormi Rudio, there had not been a peep about this unorthodox mix of black and fawn. I dislike using the term crossing for such matings because it somehow implies that different colors are almost different species, which of course is ridiculous, just as the notion that different breeds are different species when in fact they are all just dogs. It was a great loss to the breed, as Jim was one of the finest veterinarians in the country. (the above was copied verbatim from the waggingtailsdachshunds website which sadly is no longer available. There is too much group thinking. We put people, nationalities, religions, ideologies, races, oldsters and youngsters in a collective narrow box, instead of treating them as individuals which I was taught to believe was the cornerstone of our civilized birthright. Honey Hollow Ebony Maid was brindle and not black. The Great Dane Club of America Charitable Trust supports Great Dane welfare and rescue efforts, educational programs, Scholarship Programs for junior handlers, initiatives to create great awareness of breed-specific health problems and medical research efforts to improve the quality of life of the Great Dane. I think he did a lot for the blacks. They came out with this breeders code of ethics. Shalott Sir Alistairsdam, Ch. Too bad that they gave up eventually on breeding or showing Great Danes like with Stormis owner, Cathryn Clarke they decided that the downright viciousness of some people in the breed were not worth the heartache. The following Harlequin mismark colours should not be included in any breeding programmes: Copyright Great Dane Breed Council 2006 2019. She was an independent, opinionated woman who came in the breed and took it by storm and that annoyed the high and mighty who disliked her personal style and never saw her as anything more than a flapper. ? Pingback: a conservation movement for the Great Dane | Great Dane Gnosis, Pingback: Connecting the dots | Great Dane Gnosis. I used to dogsit him as a teenager. There are no upcoming events at this time. Too many organizations taking over our thinking and actions. to be shown in the conformation ring as of Spring 2018*. All Rights Reserved. Posted by fainomenon in Breed Specific, Breed Standards, Cynology, Great Dane, Historical, Animals, Breeding, Dog Shows, Dogs, Great Dane, History, Natural History, Nature. The Great Dane Club Of America (GDCA) recognizes seven colors in the conformation ring. Ruda Kazootas brother became the famous CH Honey Hollow Rameses, owned by J. The sad thing is that people in hindsight and retrospect come to admire those who stood up to be counted in the past but they still are afraid to emulate the paradigm in their own era; instead when they see individuals or movements that have the integrity and the common sense to criticize the status quo and call for correcting past errors and for progress, the very same people who admire past heroes gang up against the heroes and the pioneers in their own time and rather live in denial. (Jocopa is the kennel prefix of J. Time to catch up color purists. In the words of Stormis breeder: These are rank generalizations, a veritable vice that afflicts the human psyche these days. Copyright 2022 Great Dane Club of America. He was used extensively. I think its a tremendous bit of breed history that needs to be preserved, no less for the valuable lessons it contains). The best way we have of eradicating these mismarks is to put Harlequin to Mantle as none of these Blacks would carry the merle or white gene, I could go on and on with regards to Harlequin breeding but all this information is available on the internet. A Black to be used in Harlequin/Mantle breeding must not have any Fawn/Brindle in its pedigree. A treasure this article.very nice learning. = Must have good reason and excellent in-depth knowledge. Change). I just read a LOT on Lina Basquette in many books for so many years, but the methods, I just found them recently Thanks Maria, this is another wonderful and very delicate but profound essay on our breed. (LogOut/ Fill in your details below or click an icon to log in: You are commenting using your WordPress.com account. Lina rubbed some people the wrong way she still does years after her departure and as a result she wasnt and she hadnt been appreciated as much as she deserved. pairing with blue in the pedigree not from harlequin, merle, mantle or black breeding), Fawn/Brindle: Fawn andBrindle (on occasion Blacks are used from fawn/brindle Currently being updated 16 October 2021. The crowd went wild over this fairly unknown dog and there were many famous big winners of the day in that group and some of the top big-name handlers in that ring. Change), You are commenting using your Twitter account. A Blue to be used in Harlequin breeding must not have any Fawn/Brindle or Mantle in its pedigree. a better predictability when breeding. Submit a Veterinarian familiar with Great Danes, Education Grants and Affiliate Club Application. 2021 Graceful Great Danes NV / Kaitlyn Insell All Rights Reserved, Kaitlyn Insell ~ [email protected] ~ 775-980-7255 ~. After continual harassment, the breeder resigned from the GDCA and from then on, bred the best blacks possible and continued to breed also reputable fawns. CH Honey Hollow Stormi Rudio had a fawn father, CH Shalotts Sir Allistair, and his mother was black, Honey Hollow Ruda Kazoota. Thats how it [abhorrence of cross-color breeding] got so strong in this country. Brave man! (LogOut/ He went on to become the top dog in the country for a year and a half or more. Instead of the Great Dane people of that time rallying to this superb dog what he could contribute to the breed and the tremendous respect that those in other breeds felt toward him in his short but dazzling career, many of the Daneites unsheathed their hatchets and hacked him and his Breeder/Handler to pieces. Thank you for posting the background on the color codealways felt politics had a paw in there somewhere! This had not been a planned breeding, but occurred through the carelessness of the kennel man the mating had been a love match between Allistair and Ruda Kazoota, and Stormi was the only fawn male in a huge litter of predominantly blacks and mighty good ones. Stormi was shown at not more than 40 shows, winning his championship quickly, by going Best of Breed from the classes, on to group firsts (then the full working group) and BISs. Looking for someone who owns a decendent of Honey Hollow Stormi Rudio. Science has proven that the colors are there, even is the big name show dogs. Site by DC Web Designers, a Washington DC based web design firm. *Merle and Mantle Merle have recently been added as acceptable colors A Black to be used in Fawn/Brindle matings must not have any Harlequin or Mantle in the pedigree. Breed Council Meeting Report 26th March 2015, Breed Council Meeting Report 3rd October 2013, THE KENNEL CLUB GENETICS CENTRE TO RE-OPEN AS PART OF THE UNIVERSITY OF CAMBRIDGE. There was a group of people that had very strong feelings about this, and they were powerful enough to enforce it.. Pingback: The Great Dane & the pseudo-danes (Part II) | Great Dane Gnosis. These Wonderful, I just whote this morning a little essay about this in the Foro del Dogo Aleman, (Great Dane Forum, in Spain ), just reminding them on Lina Basquette, as simple as that, breeding the best possible great dane from the best danes she could use (without stopping on colors), she put the Great Danes on the spotlight, nobody ever won as much as she did, nobody created as much thrill as she did, actually, except from Harold Lloyd, no other star made highly fashionable to have great danes, as some of us, great danes saved her life, no one ever dream on having so many BIS as those she and her breeding did. Carolyn Mobley had him. In 1959 he won the prestigious group at Westminster a huge breed win under James Case and the group under John Cross who was an emergency replacement to the published judge. And the former generation of Great Dane fanciers know that Counce Parker was one of the finest judges. When she did, she realized immediately that he was about the best Great Dane shed ever seen and persuaded his owner to allow her to handle him. Members: With the addition of the Merle and the new genetic testing methods, the GDCA is preparing an updated color code. People from all over the country were shipping bitches in. Thank you for this post! Dr. & Mrs. James Childress who owned and adored CH Honey Hollow Great Donner, also owned a charmer, CH Honey Hollow Tall Timber. She had a tough life which made her stronger so she was not going to cower to something as silly as that. And despite the GDCA color-code of honor, the mixed-color matings go on, sometimes surreptitiously and other times, right out in the open before all the horror-stricken diehards. I have enclosed a table based on the questionnaires that were returned together with the research I have done via the internet and information from ACK and DDC, we all need to digest this information and move forward to establishing what we consider to be best for Great Danes in the UK. Compared to the border-to-border, coast-to-coast campaigns in the breed, this was incredible. Change), You are commenting using your Facebook account. Council Parker, who continued to breed many outstanding blacks also fawns and brindles despite criticism from the good ole GDCA. The color code is ridiculous, it promotes a breeding KNOWN to cause handicapped puppies, as breeders we can and should do better. Council Parker). Blue: Blue and Black (blacks from blue/black or black/black Hes out of a brindle. I said, Oh. 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