I am in trouble because i have established all my development strategy on deploying a web app through a Docker's container installed on a Windows Server 2019. Windows Server, version 2004 SAC release notes, https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/windows-server-insiders/wsl-2-not-working-after-installing-20262/m-p/1928823, https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/windows-server-insiders/how-to-install-wsl-2-on-windows-server/m-p/858359, https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/ACSWFW47MOQYRLX2SUCJJB3ST7AVLANCNFSM4M7VM5SA, https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/ACSWFW7AUZS2KS7K4A2YZ7LST7GLHANCNFSM4M7VM5SA, Foster beeing OS agnostic by introducing other environments (like Windows) to GitHub Actions builds, a newer build of windows for WSL2 than Windows Server 2019, https://twitter.com/WSV_GUY/status/1358522964052832257?s=19, https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2FTBBle&data=04%7C01%7C%7C83af0822dc444995ceaf08d8e17bf5d5%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637507269816436905%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=yU3naHjYPuRainhtQX77EdJpImZPexPFMsYraShVRgU%3D&reserved=0, https://twitter.com/WSV_GUY/status/1358522964052832257?s=19; Mention Subject: Re: [MicrosoftDocs/WSL] WSL2 Support for Windows Server 2019 (. Didnt work for me. Subject: Re: [MicrosoftDocs/WSL] WSL2 Support for Windows Server 2019 (. As far as I can tell from in-passing GitHub PR discussions with Windows Container Platform team members, LCOW is not dead, and is still being actively supported in hcsshim and containerd by them. Hyper-V backend will not be the issue as much as any existing support for LTS windows. but in that case Docker containers on Windows Server would not work anyway. WSL2 depend on OS, it's ~~~~~. Basically its a response from someone at Microsoft indicating WSL2 is not intended for production use and thus is excluded from Windows Server. clearly stated that WSL2 is not going to happen on WS2022 too, https://devblogs.microsoft.com/commandline/a-preview-of-wsl-in-the-microsoft-store-is-now-available/, https://devblogs.microsoft.com/commandline/a-preview-of-wsl-in-the-microsoft-store-is-now-available/; Comment To: MicrosoftDocs/WSL Given the timing, this suggests we might get a Windows Server LTSC release paired with Windows 10 21H1, as there's been no indication yet that 21H1 has forked from the "active development builds". Best, Get Docker Images and Containers Updates Notifications. Hi folks, I've made a statement on the microsoft/wsl GitHub repo to help clarify this. I did the same on PowerShell but the daemon refuse to launch due to unsufficients rights. ***> It's literally a foreign thing running inside Windows, and how are AVs going to deal with that exactly? They only formally support Windows 10 versions still in servicing, so https://docs.docker.com/desktop/windows/install/ lists Windows 10 21H1 or higher (20H2 for Enterprise/Education) but even if they are enforcing that in the installer, an installer from early-mid 2021 (when the 30-month support window for Windows 10 version 1809 expired) would still allow installation. A little off-topic but if you're running Docker on Windows, you want to befriend Elton Stoneman, the author of the book, Docker on Windows, 2nd Edition and an architect at Docker (the company). I want docker for windows it because it have a GUI, and I just can not believe that we can not use wsl2+docker with windows server with UI in 2021.3.31. ***> But The native container functionality that can be enabled on windows server is limited to the Windows NT kernel and thus windows server nano images. Dan Decker, ________________________________ I will have to downgrade a 28 core workstation to regular Windows 10 just to use WSL2 and CUDA, but then I will lose the ability for multiple users to be logged in. Dan Decker, ________________________________ Thank you all for giving us your feedback here, I look forwards to hearing more as we give more updates when they're available. in fact, not every cloud virtual machine support Hyper-V, so it even not a option for docker desktop + hyper-V. so wsl2 can not be use in a VM environment that do not support the nest virtualization ? Can I run a cmd as part of a compose file? I haven't confirmed this, but the Windows Server, version 2004 SAC release should have WSL2 support. Sent: Monday, April 12, 2021 7:01:05 AM Yes, I know, the store is not exactly very practical on Windows Server, but I don't see why it wouldn't be possible to extract the contents of the msix bundle to try and run it directly on Windows Server 2022. Theyve made it clear that WSL2 is simultaneously the future of WSL while also maintaining its a development tool not used for production deployments even if many of us disagree. Old Edge depends on OS , it's die. That's not going to work unless they give "simple" containers a lot more love. I think the issue is in supporting the virtual machine platform. From: john ***@***. At this point I don't care if we have to use Windows containers or Linux containers, all I really want are containers on Windows Server 2019. ***>; Mention ***@***. From what I can see, they now have their eyes on AKS + Azure Stack HCI, while making some fancy GUIs in Windows Admin Center to "ease using Windows containers". I'm sure that Hyper-V and the containers are installed but perhaps i miss something - i'll you tell if i find something later. This link was shared earlier in the thread by Marc-Andr Moreau. The current ticket, being a report against the docs, is probably not bringing much visibility to a feature request. To: MicrosoftDocs/WSL ***@***. Windows Server 2012 R2 Slow and creating Temp profiles Windows Server 2019 Powercfg AMD optimization. From: TBBle ***@***. Subject: Re: [MicrosoftDocs/WSL] WSL2 Support for Windows Server 2019 (. Has it been included in one of the semi-annual release channels and just not here? Hi there. If you'd like to use WSL 2 distros on Windows Server I would recommend you use Windows server version 20H2 for the time being. ________________________________ Sign up for a free GitHub account to open an issue and contact its maintainers and the community. ________________________________ pfff, I understand that they dont want to use WSL2 for production hosting but as a CI/CD tool? The overarching point is that to run Docker/Linux containers some form of virtualization is needed. 1- docker desktop on windows sever ***>; Mention ***@***. We've listened to feedback in this area and I'd like to clarify that WSL 2 distros are now supported on Windows server versions 2004 and 20H2. should be changed so it is made clear that it only applies to Win 10 Sku:s, not server SKU:s. What about this: https://www.thomasmaurer.ch/2019/08/how-to-install-wsl-2-on-windows-server/ ? I am also running Windows Containers and I've discovered a couple of small gotchas around running Windows Containers vs. Linux Containers, such as how space inefficient MSI installers are. ***> wsl --set-default-version 2 or wsl --set-version 2 I'm trying to setup a Windows Server 2019 instance that I can run both Windows Containers and Linux Containers at the same time. As far as I can see in the release notes, Docker Desktop has most-recently deprecated Windows 1709 (build 16299). You could jump forward to the vNext LTSC preview, perhaps? @TBBle the 2004 version has no desktop support. ***>; Mention ***@***. ***>; Mention ***@***. Otherwise, this really means that if you can put up with the long list of limitations that come with Windows containers, you are still stuck without containerized database support, which is ridiculous. So the current thinking is that WSL2 is great as a developer tool on Windows 10, but supporting it officially on Windows Server would give people the wrong idea since they might start using it for production workloads. I think youd still have the same issue with the WSL2 install from the Windows store unless the Virtual Machine Platform installation actually works. I managed to get a clearer statement answer twitter: https://twitter.com/WSV_GUY/status/1358522964052832257?s=19. Official Linux containers only) or run into issues that ought to be fixed in Docker for Windows (MongoDB). Even tried building the WSL kernel from source and that didn't work Yeah, it sounds like the wsl binary is still from WSL1, if it doens't know the --set-default-version parameter, which suggests the whole subsystem is WSL 1 still. There is a ticket specifically for WSL2 on the now-announced Windows Server LTSC 2022 (late 2021) microsoft/WSL#6301. Three options really: I can confirm after testing tonight WIndows Server 2019 Preview that even in the preview release of 2004 LTSC with desktop experience (I typically use server core but wanted to see) that WSL2 is not functioning; I did an install with the same setup as on my windows 10 box where I have it running and could not get it to run either Docker or Ubuntu in Version 2. It's a pretty niche scenario but we would benefit from it if possible. I would be interested as well, especially if the Linux MongoDB container works correctly with a docker volume under WSL2. Subject: Re: [MicrosoftDocs/WSL] WSL2 Support for Windows Server 2019 (. Docker Desktop should work on Windows Server 2019 but it would need to be with the desktop experience (you actually can run some GUI apps on server core but why would you.) But realizing that getting Linux containers to run properly (including databases that are very tied to specific filesystem i/o calls) on Windows Server, I would settle for simply using Windows containers on Windows, as this is the only native option. The thing is that this is precisely what most people waiting for WSL2 on Windows Server want to do it with: run production workloads. Subject: Re: [MicrosoftDocs/WSL] WSL2 Support for Windows Server 2019 (. The issue here is that even Windows containers on Windows have several unfixed issues, starting with the lack of graceful shutdown support. That means in many cases those containers simply CANNOT be deployed on windows server in any production sense. Cc: Dan Decker ***@***. You may still be able to run containers user the Docker Desktop Hyper-V backend, although Docker Desktop does not formally support Windows Server, as far as I recall. Sent: Thursday, April 1, 2021 11:31:30 AM Well occasionally send you account related emails. But there is no VM with Windows Server + WSL2 that I can run with it in the cloud! Sent: Wednesday, December 9, 2020 1:45:41 PM Development container with Visual Studio code - how does Mapping multiple docker networks to interface names Press J to jump to the feed. ________________________________ just output the help message. is it not supported or simply its moved beyond preview releases. Hi folks! Best, The TOC just says "Install WSL & update to WSL 2", but the page with the WSL2 instructions is titled "Windows Subsystem for Linux Installation Guide for Windows 10". From: matsmcp ***@***. We need a WSL subsystem on a supported server with a GUI and a decent lifecycle. Although the error message you got suggests that you got past that point, and are hitting a lower-level issue. Windows 10 Enterprise 2019 LTSC is still in Mainstream support until January 2024, but I assume Docker Desktop isn't consideration the LTSC versions of Windows 10, since they're intended for specialised devices. ^_^. (I'll be closing this one out for house keeping purposes). I'll reproduce it here: """ ***>; Mention ***@***. Apparently it used to work: https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/windows-server-insiders/how-to-install-wsl-2-on-windows-server/m-p/858359. ***> I would think its a matter of product support / maintenance but there must be other things under the covers they think make it less reliable for production workloads. And since there is a huge difference in the level of functionality between WSL1 and 2 the later is the preferred, Also https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/wsl/wsl2-faq should be updated. But from a security perspective, it is a bit scary that you can have access to all your Windows partitions and do with the files whatever you want. Nested virtualization is not supported with AMD, is supported with Intel, Doesn't support running Hyper-V on top of KVM. From: Marc-Andr Moreau I think it is obvious that it won't happen for Windows Server 2019, but maybe there's hope with Windows Server 2022 using the new Windows Subsystem for Linux Preview available on the store. WSL 2 distros are now enabled on Windows Server 2022, you can get access to it right away by installing a KB. I am more surprised I think that its framed as a wholly bad idea rather than something that Microsoft just does not want to support at this time from a strategic standpoint (production WSL2.) 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